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Re: Karma's a Bitch. (2.00 / 2)

Yes,... those stupid engineers!

What gives them the idea that people might want IPods, or computers, or cars.... =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 02:11:27 AM EST
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Re: Karma's a Bitch. (2.00 / 1)

Honestly, the reason Ipods are so intuitive is because an engineer didn't design it (It was Jonathan Paul Ive and industrial designer).  And early computers were pretty poorly planned out.  Today a mouse is a necessity and makes casual computing quite simple.  That didn't happen instantly when personal computing first started.

Honestly, engineer, programmers and the like come up with amazing things.  And then people that are closer to artists than scientists make them more useful to the average person.


by shalca on Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 07:39:37 AM EST
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And early computers were pretty poorly planned out.  Today a mouse is a necessity and makes casual computing quite simple.  That didn't happen instantly when personal computing first started.

You can thank the engineers at Xerox PARC for that, and engineers-turned-businessmen Bill Gates and Steve Jobs for stealing the idea. :P

In order to have a successful company in a technological area, your leadership must be proficient in both business and the technology domain of the company.  One of the reasons GM is failing, Xerox PARC failed, and Microsoft and Apple are on top of the world.


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by BishopRook on Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 08:26:42 AM EST
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Re: Karma's a Bitch. (2.00 / 1)

well, it takes all kinds of skill sets to undertake a large project.  I seriously doubt that any one person "designed" an IPod...

No doubt you need designers and artists to come up with the design, but the design has to be fabbable (hence you need engineers) and has to be acceptabel to the market (hence you need people who do market surveys) and you need people who can build, and test, and a sales staff....

And then, once your project becomes sufficiently complex, you need "system engineering" to put it all together (this is what Steve Jobs provides).  The IPod (and the space shuttle, and the moon program) was all put together with system engineering.

But, if you promise not to go around denigrating engineers, I promise not to go around denigrating industrial designers.

Well, I promise not to go around denigrating industrial designers regardless =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 09:07:16 AM EST
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